I’m not watching the show regularly but from time to time if I get reminded about it somehow. This latest show is definitely one of the most interesting ones I’ve watched. It really backed up all the exitement I had for TrueOS anyway. Even though I’m just a user and am not familiar with all the techical stuff that goes on in the background that is talked about.
As I don’t have and don’t want to have a youtube-/Google-Account, I’d like to ask / commend on some topics right here.
##1. Ditching grub for FreeBSD bootloader (about 32:55ff)
I’m all for it - though I don’t really care because I already ditched it myself. My question would be about the additional “overhead” (were they referring to rEFInd or some different spelling?) that is being taked about. As I understand it, it would be “like” grub, as in “take over the whole drive” instead of confining itself to the assigned partition which means it would override Windows bootlader - everytime a BE change is being executed.
Is that right?
And if so, could I opt-out of (just) that “overhead” and stay with the FreeBSD bootloader only (confined to the TrueOS partition of my drive)?
##2. Intel vs. Modesetting (about 35:18ff)
I always thought I’m using the intel driver because I specifically select intel graphics in the first install menu when updating my pcbsd v10.3 (not enough space for a third BE, not ready to ditch v10.3 BE, so no TrueOS update for me). But after watching the show I’m not so sure anymore.
I stopped trying to change / play around with the graphics driver (from within the pcdm screen) after I learned that whenever I do that I can’t really login into xfce anymore because whenever the pulse audio or the mount tray icon (I haven’t narroed it down yet if both or just one of them is the culprit) are being loaded “xfce / the system crashes”, I get logged-out and after a quick full screen “terminal” = command line screen the system goes back to pcdm screen. So for me it’s seconds not minutes being “xfce-online”.
I can login in with xfce running stable if I log into lumina and edit the respective xfce conf file by deleting the two lines that load those two icons. But during that session xfce would write those two line back in and for the next login into xfce I would have to delete those lines again…I think I haven’t tested write-protecting the file but I guess that would cause a more serious problem.
So, watching this part of the show I was thinking that maybe my system runs in fact on modesetting and I’m just experiencing the kernel panics that everyone else is experiencing when switching to intel driver - which I would in that case not switching back to but just to. I guess I need to check which driver I’m really using next time I’m booting into TrueOS.
But if I’m in fact running TrueOS using the intel driver then my system runs stable “since the beginning” which means end of september/october images which were not yet OpenRC images.
And on the resume comment from Kris on his X1 with SkyLake cpu, system crashing after resuming: My Sandy Bridge cpu seems to resume fine. I hit the standby Fx by accident why I tried (unsuccessfully so far) switching wlan on (and off). The screen went black instantaniously and I though “OMG what have I done”. And hitting the power button in order to start the pc again because I thought it was just gone it as well came back instantaniously without any problems. Although also without going to pcdm (I’m used to land on the login screen after resuming from standy or hibernation with Windows), but that’s probably just depends on settings which I haven’t bothered to check for, yet.
I never experimented with standby / hibernation as xfce greys out those two options for me since the start of my pcbsd days; and as I use my netbook/laptop as desktop with external display and lid closed at all times I never think of using those Fn-keys… even though I guess I could with a lenovo program in Windows that simulated them.
##3. Lumina panels (45:45ff)
I always wanted to ask if I can also export = save and have the settings ready for import again the panel setting I set on top of the preconfigured profile.
Also, will there ever be a right-click context menu for the panel “bar”? So far I find xfce much more flexible in regards to configuration because I just make a right-click on the panel. With lumina I have to go to the start menu go to the settings submenu and select the program for panels et. al. settings.
And when Ken talked about Lumina at the beginning of the show and the “shortcuts” he’s implemented on his system I got somehow reminded of a little program I use on windows called executor. You assign a shortcut to the program, if you hit it a simple mini-window shows up where you then type in a command (depending of your config you can assign (almost any key-character(s) to any exe etc. on your system) hit enter and the program starts. No need for start menu anymore, no need for mouse (isn’t that what the *nix world is all about? at least when I first heard of linux I thought “they really hate GUIs and the mouse”.). Anyways, I thought something like that as a basic feature of lumina would be really cool. It also can run some basic calculations and stuff that is already built into the program but I use it basically to start my programs and therefore became one of the most important programs itself on my sysem.
Kudos on not looking at the respective other brother when he is talking in order not to give away the joke until the end!
I always wanted to ask if Tim Moore is also related to the “Moore Bros.”, a cousin maybe?
And in general: Thanks for making pcbsd/TrueOS!
I’m planning on switching to it some day in the future and ditching windows completely.
Of all the *nixes I’ve tested (I only really tested pcbsd on the unix/bsd side, the rest was all linux) I like pcbsd/TrueOS the best. And I came to bsd because I watched a video on the differences of the licenses and I like the bsd approach better.
And I really like the pcbsd/TrueOS community. Maybe because it’s relatively small and feels like an extended family. It’s just a nice and friendly place to look for help - and get it even from the guys-in-chief themselves. Thanks for that, too.